A conversation that occurred over facebook on 10 August that made me smile : D
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Isn't that nice, I love to see all the money going to the well deserving rich. They at least know what to do with it, rather than those idiotic local government members who don't know anything about what is right for their community...seriously though, whoever thinks that high fructose corn syrup and cigarettes are bad...
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Op-Ed Columnist - America Goes Dark - NYTimes.com
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With infrastructure and education crumbling, we’re on the unlit, unpaved road to nowhere.
10 August at 10:12 · Like
Ilya Baykin There's totally a silver lining to the shitstorm of near-collapsingness engulfing our fair nation:
Fewer school days means more time to play.
Fewer cops means there no one to catch you stealing tv's when your unemployment runs out.
Less jail money means non-violent offenders aren't going to be locked up anymore, leaving them free to steal tv's when they can't find jobs, with no cops to catch them. The pawn shops are going be well stocked for the next few years!
Did I mention that the impending budget collapse of regulatory authority is sure to lead to the experiment in lassez-faire Ubermensch-driven capitalism that the liberty-lover demographic has been angling for ever since Ayn Rand told them to think of themselves as Atlases? It'll be hilarious!
10 August at 10:12 · Like
Nina Mautner Aweseome!
10 August at 11:56 · Like
Desirée Goehner whattt?? you mean you don't like being part of a consumeristic capitalist society were the rich get richer while the idea of the greater good of society is completely thrown away disregarded... tisk tisk tisk
10 August at 22:37 · Like
Ilya Baykin Au contraire - it's not that the would-be Atlases throw away the idea of the greater good. It's just that they're terribly mistaken about what makes for greater good. There's nothing wrong with being part of a consumeristic capitalist society - it's hardly the last possible evolution of a democracy, and I can think of many worse societies besides. There's something wrong with being a helpless consumption unit trapped in a rigged pretend-capitalist scheme which is being sold to you as Freedom(tm). For more detailed ranting, come to my seminar, EconHist 316: How Finance and the Reagan Playbook Killed America, coming to a smoke-filled kitchen near you starting Summer 2011.
11 August at 00:04 · Like
Desirée Goehner you should watch the full version of this and realize why we shouldn't be consuming mindlessly. We are destroying everything so we can buy things. So yeah, there is an issue with being in this current state of society because as of now we continue to make minimal efforts to protect our resources and people all over this world....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V3kFFPqRCE
11 August at 09:08 · Like · 1 person
Desirée Goehner more immediate action is required
11 August at 09:12 · Like
Ilya Baykin A change in consumer culture is obviously needed. Please, though, rest assured that I went to your school, and am, to my great dismay, coming back to it, and thus require no brain-cleansing on the subject. I just happen to find the whole game funny, hence the tone of my commentary.
11 August at 09:29 · Like
Ilya Baykin Also, like most people who never knew a system worse than this one, you missed the point that a non-consumption-based economy can be far worse for the environment - the former Soviet Union is in far worse shape that the US. The tragedy of the commons is typically more tragic under communism.
11 August at 09:32 · Like
Desirée Goehner In the "The tragedy of the Commons" hardin accounts for people being individual social actors. He disregards communication, collaboration, and the importance of community, which are all very important aspects of a high functioning society. ...
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11 August at 09:47 · Like
Ilya Baykin How are we defining "socialism"?
11 August at 11:44 · Like
Desirée Goehner as Marx originally intended before it was slaughtered by others interpretations.
11 August at 13:43 · Like
Ilya Baykin Yes, and who'll be calculating the use-value of production in the absence of markets? Me? You? Really smart people that know everything?
11 August at 17:02 · Like
Nina Mautner Yes. :P
11 August at 21:57 · Like
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